Off-line meeting [First night] Veteran vs. Beginner "Reality and Internet information are completely different! 』Part 1

A certain day in June 2018.
A secret meeting was held with XNUMX male members and XNUMX Universe Club staff members.

Infiltrate the meeting between male members who met for the first time on this day.
This and that story that you don't usually share with anyone, from women's stories to dating details, three hours that are not enough to talk about.

the first night"Veterans VS Beginners"
Please enjoy the format of a seminar for old members to answer questions from male members who have just joined.　

*The content of this off-line meeting was a casual one with alcohol between male members, and it includes expressions that are rude to women, but in order not to lose the sense of sizzle, write the exchange on the spot as it is. I am waking you up.We do not assume female readers, and respect the part of honest talk.

*We have permission to post from the participating male members here

Participating male member profile

Mr. S…Foreign finance related people in their 50s.Super old stock member.Joined in 2013.
I joined the Universe Club through a friend's introduction.He has always been a supportive person for the staff of the Nagoya branch.

Mr. T…A company executive in his 40s.Veteran doer member.Joined in 2014.
The main target is female college students.A man who has a reputation for being easy to get along with as a friend, and who sometimes exchanges information over tea with Teratsuji.

Mr. K…A company executive in his 40s.
It's been 4 months since I joined, and I still haven't used it XNUMX times during the off-party.A man who has a lot of caution and fear from his past experiences, but this off-line meeting will change his image considerably.

Mr. I… Those who are in their 40s and work in the legal field.It's been two months since I joined, and I've used it several times at the time of the off meeting.
It was a pity that I had to leave midway through due to my schedule, but I would like you to listen to the conversation with a gentle smile and a nod.

Staff profile

(I.e.…(Former) Nagoya branch manager, now transferred to Tokyo branch for some reason.Uncle.

Teratsuji…I have been with the company for about four and a half years, and I know that it is said to be a noisy office within the company.

(I.e.…Newcomer.It's hard to believe it's only been XNUMX months since joining the company.Demonstrates his true ability as a drink attendant.

 

There is no heroic story, but there is a failure story (lol)

Mr. K: I joined and haven't dated yet.
Mr. S: At first, I don't know how you feel
Teratsuji: You joined about four months ago, right?
Mr. K: That's right. I was a little hectic in February (when I joined), and I was a little hectic because I had to settle accounts in March and April.
Teratsuji:I see!So when you just got free?
Mr. K: Yes
Teratsuji: Well then, today I'll get an offer and go home! (smile)
Mr. S: Please take it home (laughs)
Mr. K: I don't have an image of where we'll meet.I see various (information) on blogs, but I wonder if everyone is really doing that?What
Mr. S: Ah, butJust meet up normally, go out to eat normally, and go on a date, right?
Teratsuji:yes
Mr. K: What about the meeting place?
Mr. S: specify location
Mr. K: Is it in a normal place?
Mr. S: It's normal, like Nagoya Station or Sakae.
Teratsuji: Which was it always?
Mr. S: I'm Nagoya Station.I can't drink alcohol, so I'm going by car, so I'll meet at a silver clock or somewhere that's easy to park.
Mr. K: Ah, a silver watch would be fine too.
Teratsuji: It may be difficult to meet people on weekends because there are so many people.
Mr. S: Maybe a gold watch would be better, I'll meet you both.
Teratsuji: Only the gold clock is on the XNUMXnd floor where you climbed the escalator
Mr. S: It might be easier to understand.A normal hotel lobby would be fine.
Teratsuji: Yes, there are many tourist hotel lobbies such as Marriott and Hilton.
Mr. K: That's right, I'm looking forward to hearing that kind of story today.Stories of bravery and stories of failures (laughs)
Mr. S : There is no heroic story, there is a failure story (lol)
Mr. K: Ah, there are failure stories!What's your failure story?
Mr. S: It's a failure story, well, it's a girl.After all, there are many things.Some children are outrageous
Teratsuji: What kind of child is the most outrageous child?
Mr. S: The most outrageous girl might be the girl you had your last date with.That girl is the best (dangerous) in my past dozens of times
Teratsuji: Yes, eh, really?
Mr. S: But after that, ★ was lowered to XNUMX, so I wondered if something happened.
Teratsuji: I think there was a cancellation
Mr. S: So the next time I see Teratsuji, should I give him some feedback?When I thought that, it was lowered to ★XNUMX, so I thought there was no need for it.
Teratsuji: What was so dangerous?
Mr. S: You don't even know how many people I've dated until now, do you?
Teratsuji:yes
Mr. S: Among them, he was the most unsociable.But you look so cute in the pictures
Teratsuji: It looks like an idol who seems to be somewhere
Mr. S: I really don't know

Last minute cancellation XNUMX hour ago "Is that a daily occurrence?"

 <Here, Mr. T appears a little late>

Mr. T: Actually, an incident happened yesterday!
(I.e.: No, I'm really sorry...
Mr. T: No cancellation... (laughs)
Mr. K: Eh, is that so?
Mr. T: I had a meeting at 18:17 and got a call around XNUMX:XNUMX.
(I.e.: (Silent Peco Peco)
Mr. T: Can't wait
Teratsuji: I feel like I'm going to go one before this (off meeting)
Mr. T: Yes, I made an offer with the intention of purchasing one, and it turned out to be a good one.Ahahaha, good story in another sense
(I.e.: (Silent Peco Peco)
Mr. T: I made a reservation at the restaurant.
Mr. S: (To Mr. K) There are times like that.
Mr. K: That's right, an hour ago...Is that an everyday occurrence?
Mr. T: No, it's my second time, huh?Was it canceled the day before last time?
Teratsuji: Last time, it was canceled the day before, but this is the first time to cancel on the day.
Mr. T: I was only worried about making a reservation for the restaurant.I don't usually take it, but it happened to be taken on a course, so I thought it was a bit dangerous, so I called, and was told that if I could change it to a different day, I wouldn't have to pay a cancellation fee, so I decided to have a drinking party with another child. the setting.So it's safe somehow.There are two options, either invite someone who can come, or move it to another day.At first, I was trying so hard to invite someone, but Kakao (KakaoTalk) wasn't feeling well.It's an airplane (loading) all the way.Why only at this time! (smile)
Teratsuji: Did you mean not today?
Mr. T: Well, maybe there was a curse (laughs)
Teratsuji: You must have resigned.
(I.e.: Yes, forced withdrawal
Mr. T: I'm sorry
Teratsuji: The child who canceled on the first date is forced to withdraw.
Mr. K: Oh, that's right
Teratsuji: Except when (a male member) really wants to see you. (Mr. T) Wasn't that much...?
Mr. T : Because (the child who cancels once) will do it twice, right? (smile)
Mr. K: Is it (forced withdrawal) regardless of the reason?
Teratsuji: Yes.
Mr. T: I was supposed to meet at 18:21.
Teratsuji：There is a fixed time for overtime work.
Mr. T: I thought it was like XNUMX-XNUMX hours in terms of the amount of work.

Where is it okay to say "I'm totally fine!" (laughs)

(I.e.: Would you like to start by asking why you signed up?In a safe place, how about Mr. T?
Mr. T: My motive for registration is dating a female college student I met at a party before joining.
Mr. S: It's amazing, isn't it, a female college student I met at a party?
All:Hahaha
Mr. S: I'm more interested in that, what kind of party do you get to know female college students, right?
Mr. T：That party was on Halloween, so it was a Halloween party for college girls and uncles.Female college students are free and uncles are about XNUMX yen.When I went there, I had a party with a girl I met, and that's how it all started.So, I broke up with that girl and there's nothing to talk about...Since I ran out of female college student material and there is no young female material recently, come to think of itWhen I was dating a female college student, one of her friends said to me, "Aren't you getting pocket money?"
Mr. S: At that time, did you give that female college student some allowance?
Mr. T: Not at all.
Mr. S: Huh~
Mr. T: So there is such a thing!I searched for it thinking that it was the trigger
Mr. S: I see
Mr. T: So it feels like I was taught by my (former) girlfriend's friend.If you pick it up from there, oh, there is such an activity.That's my reason for joining
(I.e.：Many men also heard about us from women.where did you find outWhen I asked about it, she said that she heard from a woman in Nishiki that there was something like this.
Mr. T: See you next time, Mr. S
Mr. S:IA colleague in Tokyo called me out of the blue and said, "There's something like this, why don't you try it!"So let me say it simply.I didn't find it myself.I'm on good terms with him, but even though I've never said anything like that to him before, he called me out of the blue. So, now that I've found a very nice partner, I'm saying that I'm in love, and I'm like, "You've never heard of that!"check it out
Mr. T: It feels like an introduction from a friend.
Mr. S: I mean, it's an introduction, but this time it's about being naked, so you can say anything, right?Teratsuji?
Teratsuji:fine! (smile)
Mr. S: Universe Club does a lot of things (as a group), and the big guys in the main body are the customers of their colleagues.
Teratsuji: Ah, so it was
Mr. S:oh yeah.It seems that my colleague was asked to join when it was launched.So, since it seems that Nagoya will be launched, Mr. O (a colleague of Mr. S) asked me to introduce him to an acquaintance.I think that's why I called you.So it's really (registration) old.I wonder if Nagoya can do it
Teratsuji: That's true!
Mr. T: How long have you been in Nagoya?
Mr. S: About six years ago, right?
Teratsuji:that's right.Joined in 2013.Isn't it the oldest in Nagoya?
Mr. S: With that in mind, I got a call from O,When I looked it up on the computer on the spot... "You, isn't this crazy?" (laughs)
"No, it's totally fine!"(laughs)
"No, I'm fine now!"
(I.e.:Hahaha
Mr. T: One word!One phrase, "It's okay!" (laughs)
Mr. S: Yes (laughs) It's okay,I've already dated dozens of times, and now I've already found a girlfriend I'm in love with, and I'm in love with that girl..seriously?I've never heard of this before!What?That's what I'm talking about.So (to Mr. K) it's all right
All: Ahahahahaha
Mr. S: It's totally fine (laughs) No, you said you're going on a date from now on.
Mr. T: Ah, it's still XNUMX!
Mr. K: XNUMX
Teratsuji: But you are afraid to join first.Isn't it scary to apply (to join) rather than dating?
Mr. K: It's a high hurdle, isn't it?
Mr. S: But I also have O, and I've been told that it's all right, and he's been on dates dozens of times, so I'm relieved to hear that, but when I look into it myself, it's like that (acquaintance There is nothing like a sense of security listening to the story, right?
Mr. T:That's right
(I.e.: It's totally fine (laughs)

Personal information was leaked even on dating sites

<Mr. I appears here>

Teratsuji: How did Mr. K feel?I didn't get to see you at the interview...
Mr. K : I was doing dating at first, but my personal information was leaked.
Mr. T: To a woman?
Mr. K: Yes, that's why I'm so scared.I'm scared again this time
Mr. T: Personal information leakage is scary, by the way, which information?
Mr. K: Already, where are you going, who are you?Faxed to the company
All: Eh! !
Mr. T:so much!
Mr. K: I was exposed to the company, so I'm already scared
Mr. S: It's scary, there is such a thing
Mr. K : So it doesn't bother me that XNUMX yen has been taken out of my wallet, but no, I do.That's fine, it's cute.If you take a picture of your driver's license and fax the photo, you can't say anything to the employee.So, isn't the hurdle too high here?It's a high hurdle for me to go, and it's a high hurdle for women, so I chose it.
Teratsuji: What was the expression of the employee who received the fax?
Mr. K: No, no, it was fun (laughs).like (laughs)
(I.e.:Hahaha
Mr. T: Ah, it was written! ?
Mr. K: No, even the name of the hotel was written down.
Mr. T: Well, what's the purpose? sent a fax.Did something go wrong?
Mr. K: I probably had a business card in my wallet.There's an email address written on it, so I guess I thought I'd try to threaten him a little.You got a call first, didn't you?
Mr. T: That's pretty bad
Mr. S: Wasn't there someone behind you?
Mr. K: Oh, you definitely got it
Mr. S: Wasn't it a beauty office from the beginning?
Mr. T: Oh yeah yeah, and then you start saying you're 16, and you start saying you're going to the police.I've been ignoring you
Mr. S: It would have been dangerous if I was an entertainer.
Teratsuji: It's true, it's Shukan Bunshun in one shot
Mr. S: You may have become a member!
Teratsuji: It's a K member.
All: Hahahaha
Mr. T: Universe club Nagoya branch K member
Mr. S: The press conference of K members has started
Mr. K: So scared and scared,I met a woman I didn't know at all and my personal information was taken.So go without your wallet!That's what I think, without an ID
Mr. S: It's okay!
All: Hahahaha
Mr. T: I had one too.They found my driver's license in my wallet.I don't know if it was taken
Mr. K: There is, isn't it... so definitely already...
Mr. T: That's why you can't sleep
Mr. S:seriously! ? (smile)
Teratsuji: Mr. S, are you okay?
Mr. S: It's okay!
Teratsuji: Hahahaha
Mr. T: You have to choose who you sleep with.Sleeping is SLEEP
Mr. K: Yes Yes Yes Yes, was it a woman from this club?
Mr. T: We met in a different place, but I became a member here.
Mr. K: That's why I'm afraid
Teratsuji: But something that can prove your identity,I've heard that it's better not to bring cards.
Mr. S: Do you want me to give you a business card?
(I.e.: Hahahaha
Mr. K: Well, normally, a business card! ?
Mr. S: Yeah, well, it's still a judgment, but of course look at the person.butI look at people and if they look okay, I give them my business card.But nothing so far.I've dated more times than I can count.
Nothing, right?
Teratsuji: Yes, nothing so far, really.Now that I have heard about your reasons for joining, how did you feel?
Mr. I: I thought I'd play while I could (laughs)
All: Hahahaha

Teratsuji: My Sakurai seems to have something he wants to ask.
(I.e.: No, there are too many things I want to ask, so I feel like where to start (laughs)
(I.e.: It's been three months since I joined the company.
(I.e.: Yes, I went to an interview with Mr. I when I was a new employee.
Mr. S: Oh, did you have an interview?
(I.e.: I was able to attend the admission interview together with Matsuda.
Mr. I: I just joined in April
Mr. S: Is April this April?
Mr. I: Yes, that's right
Teratsuji: Why do you (S-sama/T-sama and I-sama/K-sama) separate here?With veterans and new faces
All: Hahahaha
Mr. S: Then you are a precious new customer (laughs).
Teratsuji: That's not true! ! (smile)
Mr. S: It feels like it's too late now!
Teratsuji: No, no, it's like an opinion!

The disappointment after meeting and talking is bigger than the disappointment at the moment of meeting

Mr. K: Do you feel excited even if you are a veteran?When you first pick (a woman) and nominate and meet
Mr. T: Skip every time
Mr. S: Well, there is a feeling of exhilaration
Mr. K: Even after five years
Mr. S: yes there is
Teratsuji: Huh~
Mr. K: Also, I was disappointed at the moment we met!Is there something like that?
Mr. S : The moment we met was a bit of a disappointment, but we men basically look at photos and videos, don't we?If it's just a picture these days, isn't it pretty unreliable just for the picture?You can fix it in any way.However, the club photos are taken by the staff, they are not photos that we took and edited on our own, and there are also videos, so I don't think there are many regrets when we meet.
Mr. T: There is no gap as much as dating
All: Hahahaha
Mr. S: Oh yeah, no.Dating photos aren't great, but this is definitely not the actual person!Isn't it a picture, basically.It's not like that, is it?
Mr. T:(Yes Yes)
Mr. S : Therefore, the disappointment after meeting and talking may be bigger than the disappointment at the moment of meeting.Ah, I chose the wrong person... like.like blaming yourself
Mr. T: I get a lot of comments from her, so I wonder if she's like this.Because it is easy to get an image of
Teratsuji: Do you agree with the comment?
Mr. T: No... I don't know (laughs).When you talk about something, different things come out, don't you think?It's like the real intentions of a girl come out when you gradually forgive yourself.When you are interviewing at a club, I think there are times when you have to speak clearly to some extent.After talking for about XNUMX hour and XNUMX hours, the truth gradually came out.that's pretty funny though
Teratsuji: How do you feel about the staff when there is too much difference between the comment and the real thing?Do you feel like Konoyaro... or do you feel like it's okay?
Mr. T: No, especially (laughs)
Mr. S: Not really (laughs).
Teratsuji: Oh, really?
Mr. S: The point is not suitable for the staff, is it?
Mr. T: Not suitable
(I.e.: Listening to Mr. T now,At the time of the interview, I'm pretending, but I feel like I'm gradually revealing my true natureIsn't it?Teratsuji, no, this comment is completely wrong!Like
Mr. T: No, (girl) you're lying, aren't you? (laughs)
Teratsuji:I think so…
Mr. K: Should I trust about XNUMX%?how much…
Mr. T: Well, about XNUMX% is fine, right?
Mr. K: Haha, that's the level (laughs).
Teratsuji: It feels like there's more to come out than that comment, right?
Mr. T:I agree
Mr. K: Is there no feedback for that kind of thing?
Teratsuji: Not very many, but there are
Mr. K: It's difficult, isn't it?
Teratsuji: There was one time, and even though we broke up in a pretty good way, I was told, "He's useless, he's caught a cold" (laughs). 
All:Hahaha
(I.e.: I was about to catch a cold, so it's better not to wear that girl (laughs)
Mr. I: Do you want me to take care of my health? (smile)
Teratsuji: Actually, it's so good that I don't want anyone else to introduce me.
(I.e.: It seems that he wanted to take care of it, so every time he answered the phone to all the staff, the staff said, "That girl is no good" and "That girl is no good".
Mr. S: That's no good (laughs)
Teratsuji: When I asked the girl, she said it was great, she said she would meet again.
(I.e.: Are you catching a cold?No, not?like (laughs)
Mr. T: So you have a strong desire for monopoly.
Mr. S: But you don't have to do that, do you? Even if you give up 100 steps and think so
Mr. T:I think so
Teratsuji: Coming this far, (S-sama and T-sama) have a big heart (laughs).
Mr. T:no,Children who run away will run away, no matter what they do.That's why it's better to release a child who doesn't fit
Mr. K: Are you going to do it? XNUMXst release, XNUMXnd release
Mr. T: But you have to match.Isn't it hard?keep going.I'd rather have a fun, addictive relationship with another new kid.Like Mr. O from lovey-dovey (laughs)
All: Hahahaha
Mr. S: I really love you.That's why I'm withdrawing a long time ago.When the branch managers' meeting is in Tokyo, I go to Tokyo on the night before, but when I get on the front, I always drink O.And then about once every two times, bring her along
Mr. T: Mr. O and his girlfriend are quite long, aren't they?
Mr. S: It's been a long time since we've met many times, and we're really good friends.Because they are loved and cared for more than a bad couple (laughs)
Mr. T:It is wonderful

I hate people who can't think from the other person's point of view

(I.e.: In terms of the conditions for the release, are there any characteristics of women that you don't think will last?
Mr. S: In the first place, release is to let go of something that has continued once, isn't it? The second time is different from the release if you don't want to meet in the first place, right?
Teratsuji: Well, then let's go with the former.
Mr. S: Meet twice, three times, four times
Teratsuji: Let's break up, the reason
Mr. T: There are moments when I feel like I'm lying, when I'm talking.I think something is wrong with that
Teratsuji: Is it private life?What about conditions?
Mr. T: Where is it in general?
Teratsuji: What does existence mean?
Mr. T: No, no, I think there are various things, such as private life, conditions, and relationships with other men, but it's like I'm stuck.If there is such a place, well, I think that it will be troublesome from now on.goodbye
Teratsuji: From the girl, why!Don't you say that?
Mr. T: That's okay, I'm a little busy...But there are others like that.That's why I'm not here
Teratsuji: (Mr. S) What time is it?
Mr. S: I don't know when, well, it's not limited to girls you meet at clubs, but it's the same with friends, but if you're too selfish, you won't be able to keep up.I wonder if it's that kind of time, ah, I might not be able to keep up.As you get used to it, you become selfish, don't you think?women too
Teratsuji:yes
Mr. S: It would be nice if it was within the allowable range, but if it exceeds it, it's a bit impossible...
Teratsuji: What does it feel like to be selfish beyond your tolerance? (laughs)
Mr. S: Selfish or selfish, you can't think about things from the other person's point of view.I hate people who can't think from the other person's point of view, whether it's a woman, a man, or a business partner.
Teratsuji: It's the same as socializing with other humans.
Mr. S: So, rather than being bored as a woman, there may be a lot of patterns where people stop because they don't like it as a person.If you're dating, you'll understand as a person, right?
Teratsuji：Then, Tokyo's lovey-dovey couples can also be socializing between humans...
Mr. S: No, I really love you!
All: Hahahaha
Mr. S: You will be surprised when you see it!Because you say you'll take care of me for the rest of your life.and,If she's going to get married, I'll get married.
Teratsuji: Huh, (T-sama) have you ever met a girl like that?
Mr. T: Are you like that?I had a child who didn't want to get married.
(I.e.: For the rest of your life?
Mr. T: Not yet, but the situation may be a little different.There is no child that I want to take care of for the rest of my life
All: Hahahaha
Mr. T: a wife is enough
Mr. S: You don't usually think about it that much, do you?
Teratsuji:That's right
Mr. S: But even though O has never thought of that before, he only thinks of her that way and has been dating for a long time.That's why I get angry a lot.To that girlfriend, Mr. S should quickly find a good person and let's go on a double date~ (laughs)
All: Hahahaha
Mr. S: O asked me, "How often do you do your best now?"When I said, "I've been busy lately and haven't had a date yet this month," she scolded me, saying, "Don't do that! You think I went on dozens of dates before I met her!" But you can't find a good person if you don't meet once a month!(laughs)
Mr. T: Hahaha
Teratsuji: So this is how it feels (the number of dates)
Mr. T: So now it feels like there are no (specific women)?
Mr. S: Yeah, he's not here now.Moreover, it happened to be the first time since joining at this timing, right?I happen to be busy right now.
I've never been without a date for two or three months
Mr. K:Is that so!
Teratsuji:I agree
Mr. S: Yes, no

continue to part XNUMX

Off-line meeting [First night] Veteran vs. Beginner "Reality and Internet information are completely different! ] Part XNUMXClick here

 

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