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Question date: 2026/01/10 10:17

What's up with this guy who keeps inviting me without an adult? What does he think this place is?

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Mac

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I've heard stories like this from time to time and I've always wondered about it, but it seems there are a few patterns.
① I love alcohol and drinking is all I can think about. I get drunk so I end up not being able to act like an adult and I end up being detained for long periods of time.
② In a male workplace such as construction, there is no opportunity to interact with women, so just having a meal together makes me excited. In fact, I can take care of sex at a brothel, and in a club, the main thing I want to do is have a normal date.
3. Similar to 2. Single men who have remained virgins until their 40s or 50s. They have no experience in flirting with amateurs, so they don't know how to take the conversation beyond dinner.
4. As I get older, my libido has decreased and I have no confidence. But I still have some libido in my head, and I want to keep chasing women. I have no money to spend, so I'm bored.
⑤ To kill time while working as a company president. It depends on the industry, but company presidents are extremely bored when they have free time. 5,000 or 10,000 yen for a meeting is cheaper than going to a cabaret club. This may be common among men who don't like alcohol.
These are the patterns of the man who is the real deal. Are there any others? Regarding ② to ④, if a woman plays her cards right, she may be able to lure him into a trap and withdraw an incredibly large amount of money. However, she needs to have the genes and upbringing to be comfortable with lying, and she also needs the skills and talent. For better or worse, it's not something that anyone can do.

  • Answer date: 2026/01/10 10:47
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Maezawa (Staff)

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Hmm?
This is not a sex club, so I don't think there's any problem as long as the allowance is properly paid.

If there is no allowance, then what exactly do you think this place is?
That makes sense, but if that's not the case, the universe also allows relationships without adults, such as Relationship Type A.

Maybe, but without an adult, the allowance is too small, I want more allowance.
If that's the case, it means that there is a difference in thinking between you and the other person.
You just need to break up with that person.

Also, some men will give you the same allowance even without an adult as they would with an adult.
I think it's good to find a guy like that.
They are very rare, so it may be quite difficult to find one.

  • Answer date: 2026/01/10 16:10
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Seattle

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Woman: It's fun meeting you. I'm glad you asked me out.

Man: Let's go drinking again here, there, and there. Here, 10,000 yen allowance.

Woman: Thank you, I'm always happy.

Here, he bows his head and looks sad.

I'm no good. I guess I'm not attractive... I pretend to hold back my tears.

It's fun being with you, but this is how we met, and I don't think I can take our relationship any further than this.

Man: No, it's not like that. You know, I was wondering if an old man like this would be unpleasant.

Woman: I don't care about age or anything. I'm happy with you because you're always so kind, so please don't think I'm only after money, but my expenses are really tight and I don't have any other offers (just kidding), so I wonder if I have no choice but to work in the sex industry.

If you really feel like crying, then cry. If you can't, then turn away.

Man: That's not what I meant. Okay. How much should I pay as an allowance?

Woman: I don't want to stop seeing you, so I want you to decide within a reasonable range.

But if I don't pay ○○ million yen (a six-figure amount that's just barely within reach) by next week, I'll have to work in the sex industry or adult entertainment industry...
I wonder if that's the only way to appear.

Here, look diagonally upwards to the left and smile sadly. The trick is to hold back tears, frown, and smile with just your mouth.

Man: Okay, let's go to the hotel now.

At this point, the allowance should be decided in advance, but this guy, who can't read the atmosphere, may drag things along without deciding anything.
Let's take the risk of paying later and ask a construction worker for help.

afterwards

If the amount is satisfactory, there is no problem.

When a small amount is not enough.

Woman: Once again, she returns to pretending to hold back her tears.

Thank you. Mr./Ms. XX is a kind person. I think Mr./Ms. XX is someone I would be happy to marry (I envy his/her wife, etc.)

Unless I absolutely have ¥○○ million, I'll have to leave the house, and I'll just end up crying in bed with the heating off, so I doubt I'll see him tomorrow, the day after, or in three or four days.

Man, I don't have that kind of stamina.

Woman: Sorry for being so rash. I'm no good. There's no point in me staying alive anymore.
I'm going home.

With tears in her eyes, she slowly makes her way home without making eye contact.
If I can't stop them, I'll say goodbye in a low voice, make eye contact for a moment, and go home crying.

If a man has done all this and still doesn't get an increase in his allowance, then go home and give him some feedback.

He was a poor old man who couldn't read the mood. He didn't pay me in advance, his mouth stinks, he didn't use a condom unless I asked, and he was selfish at night, had delayed ejaculation, and it was long and uncomfortable and painful, so I feel sorry for the next woman.
My allowance has always been the minimum, I'm constantly being sexually harassed, and the people I work with always talking about dirty things or bragging in front of other people, so it's embarrassing and difficult.
If you receive another offer, I think it would be best to tell them in advance that he is a man who makes some pretty unpleasant remarks, so they should be prepared.

If he pressed me with tears in his eyes, I would have offered a six-figure allowance or advanced a seven-figure amount, and in the end I ended up lending him 4720 million yen.


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くだらない質問に盛り上がりましたね。
片瀬牝さんもいい事書いてある。

  • Answer date: 2026/01/10 17:12
Male member

Take a deep breath


~It's okay without adults
He's my grandpa~
                Shinkokyu

  • Answer date: 2026/01/10 17:13
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safe area

お手当が高ければそれでよいじゃないですか。
交際の仕方は人それぞれです。

  • Answer date: 2026/01/10 19:56
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Katase (female)

率直なお気持ちだと思いますし、そう感じてしまうのも無理はないと思います。

ただ、少し視点を変えてみても良いのかな、とも感じました。
大人なしでのお誘いというのは、身体的なリスクが低いという意味では、必ずしも悪い話ばかりではありません。もしお手当が大人ありのときと同等、もしくはご自身が納得できる条件であれば、それはそれで一つの形ではあります。

一方で、「ここを何だと思っているのか」という違和感の正体は、その男性が交際倶楽部の前提や空気感を理解していないことにあるのだと思います。お互いの期待値が噛み合っていない状態で誘われ続けると、ストレスになりますよね。

ここで一度、ご自身に問いかけてみてほしいのは、
「その方と、そこまでして会いたいですか?」
「正直なところ、その方とやりたいと思えますか?」
That's the point.

もし答えがNOであれば、無理に付き合う必要はありませんし、違和感を覚える時点でご縁が薄い可能性も高いです。逆に、大人なしでも条件や時間が見合っていて、会話や空気が心地よいのであれば、それをありがたいと感じる女性がいるのも事実です。

結局のところ問題なのは「大人なし」そのものではなく、
その条件があなたにとって釣り合っているかどうか、
そして、その男性があなたの立場や価値を尊重しているかどうか、だと思います。

違和感を無視して合わせる必要はありません。
あなたが納得できないなら、それが答えです。

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Seattle

お褒めの言葉ありがとうございます。
シアトルさんのご回答があまりにも秀逸で、つい頬が緩んでしまいました。
私も涙目を駆使しつつ頑張ろうと心に誓いました!

  • Answer date: 2026/01/11 13:12
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Paper

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>What's up with people who keep inviting you out without any adults around?

Although they are in the minority, there are people like this in both men and women.
On the other hand, there are also men and women who enter through the adult/allowance system...


For me, if someone is type B, I don't invite them out.

I believe that wanting a relationship and wanting to be an adult are two different things. There are men and women who think that being an adult equals being in a relationship, and there are also people who think that sugar dating and dating clubs are not relationships in themselves.

The world is full of men and women who think differently than you.

Even in normal relationships, not just sugar dating, the number of times before a sexual relationship can vary from the first time to dozens of times. Also, if a man is just having fun, he might go to a hotel after 1-2 dates (usually on the day they meet), but if he's serious, he might go on multiple dates until both parties agree. I've also gone to a hotel on the first date with women I'm not interested in dating, and gone on numerous dates if I want to become a lover, so I think this trend is also evident in dating clubs. In this way, if you like a club woman, you can go on multiple dates with her. This is why, not only in clubs but in the general world, you don't break up with women you like, and the relationship continues (even after getting married or engaged once).





Not only in clubs, but also in relationships between men and women in general.

I feel that there are (surprisingly) many advantages to not being good-looking.

Is he an average looking guy? Is he a funny looking guy? And his only redeeming quality is that he seems serious.
Average looking girls won't approach him because they're obsessed with good looks, but beautiful women that men give up on as out of their league are willing to pay him a visit because they don't care about looks. Good looking men would have trouble choosing from the many available, but it's actually to their advantage because they're easily approached by only a very small number of people, and only beautiful women they like will look at them.


Even if you invite her to a hotel on the first day, she will rarely call you a playboy and you can go smoothly. She will interpret things well and won't be suspected of cheating or playing around.
If this person were handsome, people would be wary and would listen to his story suspiciously (as if they thought he did it to everyone).
The other person's imagination is inflated, so if the man is good-looking, he may be blamed for cheating... If the man is not good-looking, the woman may be blamed, even if the man is in the wrong...




Dear Mac

By the way, I don't fall into any of the categories ① to ⑤. I'm sure the question you're asking is different from my case...


Is it ⑥ or something else? I'm not sure, but I think there's a difference in thinking between the type who wants to first see if they'll be compatible as an adult and the type who wants to build a relationship first and then move on to adulthood.

Even if it's a club, there are quite a few men and women who, even after they've progressed into adulthood, will meet for dinner or dates 10 or 20 times, and if they feel like it once or twice, they'll go to a hotel. There's an allowance involved, but it's not that different from a regular lover, friend, or someone to hang out with or talk to. Women, unlike friends and coworkers, also receive an allowance (so they can go places that people their age wouldn't be able to), so there are relationships where they try to make time to meet up as much as possible. While not many, there may be a certain number of women who think this is the ideal.

There are also men and women who find deep joy and satisfaction in sex that is based on such relationships, a sense of security and trust.

  • Answer date: 2026/01/10 13:04
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Losing man

つい先日、Hなしで鍋パだけして2時間ちょっとで10渡しました。
私の部屋に昼寝だけしに来る子もいたりもしますよ。ほんとに昼寝だけしてかえっていきますが、お手当は渡してます。

他人には理解されないでしょうけど、そんなのどうでもいいんです。
私は仕事がしたい。もっともっと上に行きたい。仕事のためのガソリンが女の子たちです。

誘う気分じゃないから誘わなかっただけです。別にそれでいいじゃないですか。
お金渡す口実があればなんでもいいんですよ。Hだろうが鍋だろうが、紅葉、花見、夜景。

こないだ夜景見ながら定期さんにプロポーズしたらOKしてくれました。
ほんとに結婚するわけじゃないですが、夜景がめちゃめちゃ綺麗で、お互いよい雰囲気だったのでつい。
めっちゃ喜んでくれたのでお手当も弾みました。

私がパパ活やってる理由は、仕事に対するご褒美です。H目的ではないです。
この世の頂点に君臨する若い爆美女たちに懐いてもらえればそれでいい。

Hだけの関係の定期さんも片手くらいいますが、その子たちの序列は低いです。

序列最上位は、昼寝だけしにくる子とエースと、あともう一人、風邪引いたときだけ呼び出される子、この3人かなあ今は。
あ、もう一人いた。アッシーやってる子が。

Hなしでも会いたいと思える子はお手当青天井ですが、Hだけの子は都度で大人お手当を渡すだけなので序列は低いままです。
最上位層は、男女の関係を大きく超えて本当に特別な関係までたどり着いた子たちです。

ここに至るまでにお互いにいろんな障害を乗り越えました。傷つけあったこともあるし、フったこともある。疎遠にされたこともある。
恋人以上、夫婦以上の絆といっても過言じゃないところまでたどり着けた子たちとの時間は、人生で最高の瞬間とも言えます。

"The Other Side of Sugar Daddy Life"

があるってことです。

  • Answer date: 2026/01/11 04:45